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שדה המחול הישראלי העכשווי הומה פעילות, הוא מורכב ויוצא דופן בהיקפו, רווי בהתייחסות להקשרים תרבותיים, היסטוריים, חברתיים ופוליטיים מקומיים, ובעל זיקות עמוקות למחול הבינלאומי. הפודקאסט מאיר תופעה ייחודית זו ומייצר שיח מושכל ומהנה לציבור הרחב.

Episode 10
Anat Danieli - Ice, Water & Steam
From the series 'Movement Material - Conversations with choreographers'.(Recorded in Winter of 2022)
Anat Danieli presents her personal conception of movement material as something existing in a state of transformation. Like ice, water, and vapor, movement material undergoes various phases, therefore, it is not ephemeral or disappearing, but a substance that remains embedded in the body and carries both physical and emotional memory. Danieli reflects on power dynamics between her and dancers and expresses ambivalence about “dictating” movement material, a practice that can sometimes be perceived as authoritarian. Yet she argues that unison can actually produce a profound sense of freedom: each body expresses its own uniqueness against a shared backdrop, like an identification lineup. She articulates a unique process in which the choreographic work “wants to be born,” while she prepares the appropriate “vessel” for the work to emerge.
In her reflection, Dr. Lior Avizur offers a theoretical and philosophical reading of Danieli’s approach. She highlights Danieli’s view of choreographic works as a priori entities, “works that already exist in the world”, a stance that challenges historical conventions of dance’s ephemerality and asserts choreographic sovereignty. Avizur points to how Danieli revives older materials and disrupts conventional relations between time, body, and memory. In doing so, she raises new questions about freedom and collaboration between creator and dancer, illustrating how contemporary dance navigates between liberation and authoritative structures, documentation and transience, and life and memory.
With
Anat Danieli independent choreographer, founder and former artistic director of Kelim Choreography Center
Reflects on the interview
Dr. Lior Avizoor Artistic Director of Batsheva Dance Company, dance scholar, curator and independent dramaturg
This episode is partially narrated by professional narrators.
Ayala Shiftan in the role of Anat Danieli. The description is read by Amanda Soroudi. Announcers: Matan Ashkenazi, Zohar Zaltz, Amos Zimmerman
Music
The music in this episode was composed for Anat Danieli's choreographies:
“October” (1996) composed and performed by Ivri Lider; “Lets Run Away” (2003) composed and performed by Issar Shulman; “Rosa’s Song” from the piece “Kisses” (1994) composed and performed by Ivri Lider




